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Fuel mixture for Westbend 820
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 Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2018 11:40 am
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New/old to karting, my westbend engine cover says use 30 or 40 weight oil at 1 to 8 mixture, I use 2 cycle in other stuff, is fuel additive necessary or advised?

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 Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2018 12:06 pm
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Randy Duncalf



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I use
Klotz Oil 2-Cycle Super Techniplate Racing Oil
9 oz to the gallon

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 Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2018 05:27 pm
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Hint: you'll get a much better response if you post under your real name.

Anyway, ditto what Randy said (Klotz Super Techniplate at 9 oz/gal).  That gives 14.2-to-1 ratio.

High-test (say, 92 octane) pump gas works ok, even with "up to" 10% ethanol.  As you probably know, mixed with oil or not, today's pump gas has a shelf-life of a few months.

Race gas, or aviation gas, or any gasoline without ethanol, doesn't have the shelf-life issue, and should be better at keeping the needle bearings free of corrosion.

You asked about additives.  I don't think you need any, although Sta-Bil is supposed to increase the shelf-life.

You don't need tetraethyl lead.

Super Techniplate has 20% castor oil, so there will be some carbon build up.  (Confession: we ran our US820 on this for 8 or 9 years without even taking the head off... so the carbon is nothing like the old days with SAE 30!)

A lot of guys use fully synthetic 2-stroke oils.  With Redline, I hear that there is almost zero carbon left on the piston crown.

The absence of deposits is desirable of course, but castor's proponents point to its superior film strength.

Anyway, no matter what the bottle says, I would NOT use a mixture ratio greater than 16:1 or so (8 oz/gal).

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 Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2018 07:13 pm
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I think all the engine covers said something like that. Here's what I used in "A stock" in '63: two gallons of Zenith marine white gas (not the same as Coleman fuel!) , 8 oz. castor oil, 1 oz acetone (to keep the castor suspended in cool weather).

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Gordon Duax

 

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I only use FHS 62R in my West Bends, and Macs.
Has the film strength of castor, without the gum & carbon build up.
I run 24:1 ratio.

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Interesting.  Never heard of FHS.  I tried looking it up but could only find resellers.  Each reseller shows a pic of the bottle but the text is too small to read.  Seems as though it's marketed for 4 strokes?


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FHS stands for "For High Speed'.
Pretty sure they started off in the model air plane fuel business.

http://fhsoils.com/product/kart-racing-oil/

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