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Christ Holtz
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It's kinda choppy hillybilly but I read it few times over, but really can't follow the progressive logical thought BUT the gest is a Yes vote for Asking price to sell anything. But I'm still trying to understand the merits or value in Asking prices when all that matters is either what price it actually sold for or what it didn't sell for as stated earlier both what will work or what won't work & what you must do to get it to work. Let's say there's no sales history of accepted prices, but many unsuccessful deals both historical data are valuable knowledge if used appropriately with skill, BUT Again Again that's per region & during a certain time in history & maybe there's change in climate such as a sudden surge of desirability or perhaps a sudden drop in desirability or maybe they closed that class or that year is no longer allowed or suddenly it is allowed, BUT Again Again Again its worth what someone is willing to pay & supply & demand & desirability. Asking prices do nothing but tell you what some seller wants NOT what he's going to get. ON THE FLIP SIDE let's say seller says asking $1500 and multiple offers come in & they're all countering back & forth Asking means nothing again bc Seller might get much more than $1500 bc supply & demand. Demand is higher than supply so one makes an offer $200 higher than the other in a PROPER APPROPRIATELY LEGITIMATE ARMS LENGTH CONFIDENTIAL SALE where theres consequences for breech of confidentiality & UNETHICAL CONDUCT between/amoung parties or outside parties. A public auction is public & all offers are public, but there's private and/or silent auctions, timed auctions, reserve auctions, non-reserve auctions, cyber auctions, telephone auctions (and/or hybrids of any of these) & round robin auctions etc.. All are legal if the rules & terms of the sale are disclosed to all parties before the sale starts. To the few, You See there now he brought up intellegent respectful valid points & he got like in kind. It's a 2 way street. Kindness begets kindness. Same for Same. Last edited on Sat Jun 9th, 2012 03:29 am by Christ Holtz
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10th, 2012 06:46 am |
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Timmy Fields
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I don't mind if someone on this forum doesn't list a price and says contact me if interested via PM, email or phone. Typically I don't mind if someone on Craigslist doesn't list a price (although most I've seen do) and says contact me via phone or email.
If I contact them though and they say make me an offer, well, then I don't do business with them as I feel they are using the forum or Craigslist similar to what eBay would be - highest bidder gets the price.
In my opinion I don't feel that is right to do. My opinion could be totally wrong and yes the seller does have that right, but that is how I handle it.
Timmy
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12th, 2012 11:56 pm |
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Christ Holtz
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Timmy Fields
I unequivocally disagree. Ebay is known for public posted real time live bids via public auction by definition & usual & customary business practice nationally. Private 2 party sales are held by Private offer(s) and are a usual and customary business practice nationally. Unequivocal documented problems arrise with unethical, Un-policed, Un-accountable public and privately breaches of behavior of those offers & their terms in transactions of any kind across the board nationally (do a google search). Think about it, If you have a domestic marriage or business partnership & there's airing of laundry (dirty or otherwise) to inlaws, sisters/brothers/friends/twitter/email or whatever what is mutually or singly understood behavior/information between 2 parties as private behind doors conduct whether it be medical, financial, sexual or otherwise, it can only end up bad & for the worse, due to the betrayal or breach of trust factor. Put yourself in the betrayed or broken trustor's shoes, How would you like it? HOWEVER and not withstanding, if ALL parties agree to public airing of such IN ADVANCE as in a public auction or open public forum then I see no breach of trust or confidentiality issues.
It all depends on what is understood by the parties in advance of the act or behavior. If you knew your behind the door private behaviors were to be published or gossiped about publically or privately before engaging in them would you engage in them ? And before engaging in such usual & customary PRIVATE behind the door activities is it customary to say to your partner " Now before we do this , you're not going to record, video, gossip, or talk to all your friends about our goings on are you ? Oh and by the way just to cover my bases You wouldn't go on to a public forum & blab all our intimate goings ons would you ? Because if you are I don't even want to start got that ? " This sort of questioning is universally understood between ethical and trustworthy friends, business partners, spouses, collegues of any decent & moral character, integrity, and/or reputation. And if such trust or integrity is breached and/or broken, what does that say for the character or ethics of the betraying individual(s) that stuck the knife in your back ? If that understood confidentiality weren't going to be kept private and you knew that in advance would you have any dealings with the other party(s) ? I believe there are countless centuries of unequivocally endless documented upheavals, fights, business collapses, divorces, wars, and even murders which have a long long history of revenge, anger, violence, unfaithfulness, and unrest, that are rooted in betrayal & failed trust behaviors.  Last edited on Wed Jun 13th, 2012 12:18 am by Christ Holtz
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