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SAVE OCT 6 + 7 CUDDEBACK VILLE N.Y. VINTAGE RACE AT O.V.R.P
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 Posted: Mon May 7th, 2012 01:48 pm
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David Luciani
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I'm making a new thread here since my race hasn't been posted on the VKA site for over three months.
They've know about at least that long it but for some reason it ain't there.
i suspect there's something besides a senior moment going on with that posting oversight.:X

Who knows it may appear tomorrow and i'll look silly complaining!!!!:shock:
Anyway as soon as i figure it out i'll have a flyer pdf to send to anyone that wants to help promote the event at local east Coast tracks over the summer.


VINTAGE KART RACING

AT

OVRP Cuddebackville N.Y.

OCT 6 + 7 / 2012

Save the Date

THIS IS

A

ALL VINTAGE KART EVENT

                                                   

 Practice available oct 4,5
Event dates are currently
=> OCT. 6,7 <=

I am planning this race/event to be a fun gathering of guys who love Vintage Karts.
We're gonna race them like they were built to be run.
Everyone should have fun and I suspect will.
After we're done running the karts we'll eat burgers and lie about how great we all were "back in the day"


On the Vintge Kart judging classes i think VKA has a well thought out and thorough outline so we'll be using it pretty much verbatim.
 

IN most VKA events the rule suggestions

At my event the VKA rules on tires and equipment are
THE RULES

 Follow them or you will not be allowed to run your kart.
NO EXCEPTIONS


On the tire requirements
 VKA rules are being used
i'll post them with the flyer



on the kart set ups i'm gonna ask nicely that everyone do their best to build era correct karts.
so no mc101's on 1959 karts please.:shock:
AGAIN VKA RULES will be our basic outline
no disk clutches except as per what VKA allows it on the newest karts

My promoter option changes are

NO YAMAHA'S
 NO FOUR STROKES
NO FUN KARTS

i may make a yamaha straight shaft exception.
i might even allow a yamaha vintage grid if enough owners commit to the race and pay ahead .
i do have a resposibility to the track making money too so if there's enough preregistration within vka guidelines if you can run.
if you have a kart  contact me ahead of time and i'll do a case by case thing.


The races we ran last year were 10 laps each so we will be trying to keep the number of different grids low to finish the day.We may also mix in practice between if there aren't enough grids so drivers can "rest up"

Some of the VKA classes will be run depending on if we have over 4 karts for a particular class.
On some of the races I'm going with a different format than VKA as far as race classes go.
i'd rather group a bunch of like times together if there aren't enough karts.

THE CLASSES
 
HOPEFULLY WE"LL HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO THIS

 There will be a historic class both fast time and slow guys or they'll all run together depending on kart count
probably 1957 through 1962 more or less.
if we get enough karts i'll be using a tighter selection to group older like karts together.
we'll decide on fence sitter older karts on site.
no us820,mc91 or mc101 as they can run in the faster rear engined group are gonna be allowed.

we'll run a mc49/5 class If there's enough mcculloch 1.375 or 1.5 stroked motors
probably like barnsville with the both fast and slow paced running together.
i may even put the mc 6/10's in that class so the grid is a decent size.

A rear class both fast and slow paced
possibly a foriegn class too if we get enough karts or they can run together if the drivers are agreable .the point is to have fun.

A sidewinder class both fast and slow paced.
possibly a foriegn class too if we get enough karts or they can run together if the drivers are agreable .the point is to have fun.
there will also be duals,senior class, junior class fast/slow if enough karts are there ect ect

All this presupposes we have enough karts to run the two fast/slow classes.
 If not it'll be a free-for-all like year with single classes for rears,historics and sidewinders.
 The fun part is what I'd want everyone to relive not endless rules and debates.


 We'll be having a semi formal judging of the karts like at Avon
 though i will be adding a racable rat catagory.
basically i'll give the guys who have decent karts just not pretty a shot at a prize.
more on the judging later.

dave:cool:


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Ok at the risk of being tarred and feathered I'm allowing a full grid of Yamahas at the Cuddebackville race at O.V.R.P.
Their class isn't anything VKA actually has on the books but i'm using my promoters option to allow it.
they are not exactly vintage either but i'm using my american fairness and equal rights for everybody attitude to allow them.

About the guys coming:

Orville Kart Klub has an over 35 classic kart class called Old Farts In Karts.
It's a  yamaha powered class and they going to participate in my vintage kart event.

My Reasoning:

Everyone knows i own and love the older karts but i'm not gonna exclude people because their classic karts aren't my cup of tea.

 We are a new event the numbers we can produce are extremely important if we want this to be a yearly event.

Their karts are restored and they have a set of rules as shown below.

They are gonna police themselves so i'm really only giving them a place in the race schedule.

so if you are mad about this decision go ahead and say so but it's what i'm gonna do.

Dave:cool:

if there are other guys bringing their yamaha powered karts this is your class.
read the rules as they are RULES in my world.
Don't comply and you won't run.

Old Farts In Karts Yamaha powered karts rules and requirements

Rules for OFIK 2012
1. 35 years of age or older
 2. Chassis must be a Fixed Yoke of 10 model years or older
3. Adjustable pills are permitted
 4. This rule is not allowed at ovrp
5. Full bodywork or noses not permitted nose fairing allowed if a original stock item
6. Karts must comply with track safety rules and checked by track
7. Yamaha KT100s is the spec engine wka rules
8. Pump gas only

 9. Tires
    a. Maximum width front 5"
    b. Maximum read width 7.1"
10. The following tires must be used
   a. Burris - B-33A
   b. Dunlop - DCM, DDM, SL-4, SL-5
   c. Bridgestone/Firestone - YJF, YKC
   d. Maxxia - HT3, HT4
   e. Tire Prep is NOT allowed

12. Allowed Chassis and Weight
    a. pre 1985 must scale at 330 lbs.
    b. 1986 to 2002 must scale at 360 lbs.
    c. This rule is not allowed at ovrp
13. Drivers and karts that weigh 30 lbs. over minimum may use any fuel
14. This rule is not allowed at ovrp
15. rule doesn't apply at OVRP
16. This is a non contact class. Accidents do happen, but no bumping during the start or during the race. Failure to adhere will result in black flag.
17.rule doesn't apply at OVRP
18. Starting lineup for the heat will be by random draw
19. Starting lineup for the feature will be by the highest finishing kart on the pole than the rest of the kart by their finishing order in the heat

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David,

Just so you know; the Cuddebackville event has been listed in the VKA magazine and newsletter for at least two months. I don't know why it's not on the web site. Please talk to your area coordinator.

Dick Teal

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Hi Dick,

i think i noted the hard copies both magazine and newsletter have been running the event.
i just checked the website and it's there too now.

i need to modify the flyer so it has the new class on it.
 then hopefully it'll be on both the forum and track website.

dave:cool:

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hi guys,

been trying to think of ways to promote this race.
one is to run ads for it on c-list.
so i figured out where to swipe html coding and just started adding cuddeback flyers to craigslist.
i may need help posting to prevent their spider bot from scorching the ads.

a spider bot is a program that electronically crawls through all the new ads.
if it finds the same ad posted on the same day it'll usually delete it.
i think it also looks for the computer sender i.d. number and deletes doubles that way too.

so if i'm having trouble keeping the ads up i may ask for help.
if do need the help i'll post the html code with directions on what to do.

here's a link to the flyer ad

http://newhaven.craigslist.org/wan/3142504518.html


dave:cool:

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Hey Dave.... Your ad on the "list" looks great!
-Al

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OK..... When it comes to the time needed to prep for an event.... October is right around the corner. Who's planning on going to the Cuddeback event on October 6th and 7th. And what karts are you bringing? I want to figure out what karts I should start to getting ready.
-Al

Last edited on Fri Aug 3rd, 2012 04:34 pm by Al Postiglione

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ok Al lets see.
definitely bringing the :

margay new breed sidewinder mc9
margay cheetah left wmc91 open
the king kart w/mc49
the rupp dead axle w/mc49

might have the:
ampac w/lmr 100cc
neal kart or the kavalla w/mc10
fox kart w/mc49

At this rate i may need a couple of spare drivers!!!
maybe i can start a petition to get Marjorie to come and drive.
so far my sweetie has refused .
Worse she's getting madder than a wet hen ever time i take off for an event.
:shock::shock::shock::shock:

dave:cool:

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WAG at this time...
SAE w/twin 101s,
Pro X with an open 91,(over 60)
HornetSS with a Mac 90 ,(sportsman)
Sean on an Invader or Stinger with a 91,(Jr)
Vince with the B limited

gw

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rupp dart with kt100

invader with kt100

mono kart with pair of kt100s

and a blitz kart with kx 125 engine 6 speed .  :shock:

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steve,

BLASTFAMY!!!!!


ready ...... aim ....... fire

weeeeeeeeeeeeeiieeiieee
:shock::shock::shock::shock:


when you hear it ignore that whistling sound .
you , mr yammi boy , will just be a grease smear in another second anyway.

dave:cool:

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lol makin sure you was payin attention .. 

mc 49 kart

ill bring historic whatever matches up to others

invader with my favorite 3 holer mcculloch mc8

traveling light ..have to bring an alley kat thats getting left there ..

p.s. i have some pretty strong yamadogs but it wouldnt be fair .. unless you guys had enough for a c open class ;)

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